s chaos came up. I had only 12 local business clients and my personal service to them has been exemplary enough that they are staying with me. But he down time made me go and look at the overall GVO picture. And I agree: >> webinar service has steadily gone downhilll never stable enough for me to use. >> too many upsells and too much spam >> overuse of templates made for poor ranking Goodbye GVO I learned a lot some good some bad